Another Backup Withholding Story

 

We talked not too long ago about backup withholding.

What is it?

Think Forms 1099 and you are mostly there.

The IRS wants reporting for many types of payments, such as:

·       Interest

·       Dividends

·       Rents

·       Royalties

·       Commissions and fees

·       Gambling winnings

·       Gig income

Reporting requires an identification number, and the common identification number for an individual is a social security number.

The IRS wants to know that whoever is being paid will report the income. The payor starts the virtuous cycle by reporting the payment to the IRS. It also means that – if the payee does not provide the payor with an identification number - the payor is required to withhold and remit taxes on behalf of the payee.

You want to know how this happens … a lot?

Pay someone in cash.

There is a reason you are paying someone in cash, and that reason is that you probably have no intention of reporting the payment – as a W-2, as a 1099, as anything – to anyone.

It is all fun and games until the IRS shows up. Then it can be crippling.

I had the following bright shiny drop into my office recently:     

    

The client filed the 1099 and also responded to the first IRS notice.

It could have gone better.

That 24% is backup withholding, and I am the tax Merlin that is supposed to “take care of” this. Yay me.

This case was not too bad, as it involved a single payee.

How did it happen?

The client issued a 1099 to someone without including a social security number. They filled-in “do not know” or “unknown” in the box for the social security number.

Sigh.

Sometimes you do not know what you do not know.

Here is a question, and I am being candid: would I send in a 1099 to the IRS if I did not have the payee’s social security number?

Oh, I understand the ropes. I am supposed to send a 1099 if I pay someone more than $600 for the performance of services and yada yada yada. If I don’t, I can be subject to a failure to file penalty (likely $310). There is also a failure to provide penalty (likely $310 again). I suppose the IRS could still go after me for the backup withholding, but that is not a given.

Let me see: looks like alternative one is a $620 given and alternative two is a $38,245 given.

I am not saying, I am just saying.

Back to our bright shiny.

What to do?

I mentioned that the payment went to one person.

What if we obtained an affidavit from that person attesting that they reported the payment on their tax return? Would that get the IRS to back down?

It happens enough that the IRS has a specific form for it.               

We filled in the above form and are having the client send it to the payee. We are fortunate, as they have a continuing and friendly relationship. She will sign, date, and return the form. We will then attach a transmittal (Form 4670) and send the combo to the IRS. The combo is considered a penalty abatement request, and I am expecting abatement.

Is it a panacea?

Nope, and it may not work in many common situations, such as:

(1)  One never obtained payee contact information.

(2)  A one-off transaction. One did not do business with the payee either before or since.

(3)  The payee moved, and one does not know how to contact him/her.

(4)  There are multiple payees. This could range from a nightmare to an impossibility.

(5)  The payee does not want to help, for whatever reason.

Is there a takeaway from this harrowing tale?

Think of this area of tax as safe:sorry. Obtain identification numbers (think Form W-9) before cutting someone their first check. ID numbers are not required for corporations (such as the utility company or Verizon), but one is almost certainly required for personal services (such as gig work). I suppose it could get testy if the payee feels strongly about seemingly never-ending tax reporting, but what are you supposed to do?

Better to vent that frustration up front rather than receive a backup withholding notice for $38,245.

And wear out your CPA.

Waiting Too Long For Refund Of Excess Withholdings

It happens when someone fails to file with the IRS. It might be a “sleeping dog” rationalization, but people will allow a string of tax years to go unfiled, even if some of those years have refunds rather than tax due.

This is a trap, and I saw it sprung earlier this year on a widow. It was unfortunate, as she still has kids at home and could use the money.

The trap is that tax refunds are not payable after a period of time. The Code wants closure on tax matters. The IRS has three years to audit you. You in turn have three years to request a refund. These are general rules, and there are relief valves for the unusual situation: the IRS can request you to voluntarily extend the statute, for example, or you can file a protective claim if your three years are running out.

Let’s look at the Golden case.

Michael Golden did not file his 2015 tax return. In fact, he waited so long that the IRS prepared a return for him (called a substitute for return or SFR). The IRS does not spot a taxpayer any breaks when they do this (no itemized deductions or head of household status, for example). The IRS instead is trying to get a taxpayer’s attention, prompting them to file a return and opt back into the system. In April 2021 (five years after the return was actually due) the IRS issued its notice of deficiency (NOD, sometimes referred to as SNOD). The SNOD is the IRS trying to perfect its assessment prior to sending the account to Collections for their tender mercies. The SNOD showed tax due.

A few days after receiving the SNOD, Golden filed his 2015 tax return. It showed a refund.

Of course.

Golden wanted his refund. The IRS said it could not issue a refund.

There is a technical rule.  

Here it is:

         Section 6511(a)  Period of limitation on filing claim.

Claim for credit or refund of an overpayment of any tax imposed by this title in respect of which tax the taxpayer is required to file a return shall be filed by the taxpayer within 3 years from the time the return was filed or 2 years from the time the tax was paid, whichever of such periods expires the later, or if no return was filed by the taxpayer, within 2 years from the time the tax was paid. Claim for credit or refund of an overpayment of any tax imposed by this title which is required to be paid by means of a stamp shall be filed by the taxpayer within 3 years from the time the tax was paid.

Tax law can be tricky, but there are two rules here:

(1) The default period is three years (to coincide with the statute of limitations). The period starts on April 15 (when the return is due) and ends 3 years later, unless one requested an extension, in which case the default period also includes the extension (normally to October 15).

(2) Refuse to go along with the default rule and you might trigger the second rule: only taxes paid within two years of filing can be refunded.

As a generalization, you do not want the second rule. Why limit yourself to taxes paid within two years when you can have taxes paid within three years (and the extension period, if an extension was requested).

The IRS was also looking at this shiny:

Section 6511(b) Limitation on allowance of credits and refunds.

(1)  Filing of claim within prescribed period.

No credit or refund shall be allowed or made after the expiration of the period of limitation prescribed in subsection (a) for the filing of a claim for credit or refund, unless a claim for credit or refund is filed by the taxpayer within such period.

Notice that Congress included the phrase “shall be allowed.” Another way to say this is that – if you do not fit within the three-year test or the two-year test – your refund claim “shall” not be allowed. This was the IRS position: hey, we do not have much discretion here.

Let’s review the dates for Golden.

We are talking about his 2015 return. The return was due April 15, 2016. Add three years. Let’s be kind and add three years plus the extension. His three years clock-out on October 15, 2019. Three years will not get you to a refund.

The two year rule is even worse.

Golden argued fairness. He was working in the private sector as well as the Navy Reserve, and the demands therefrom made his life “extremely difficult.” In tax terms, this argument is referred to as “equity.” Some courts can consider equitable arguments, but the Tax Court is not one of them.

Here is the Court:

          We sympathize with petitioner’s predicament.

The Supreme Court has made clear that the limitations on refunds of overpayments prescribed in section 6512(b)(3) shall be given effect, consistent with Congress’s intent as expressed in the plain text of the statute, regardless of any perceived harshness to the taxpayer. See Commissioner v. Lundy, 516 U.S. at 250–53. Because Congress has not given us authority to award refunds based solely on equitable factors, we are compelled to grant respondent’s Motion for Summary Judgment.”

It was not a total loss for Golden, however. Since he did file a return, the IRS reduced his 2015 tax due to zero. He did not owe anything. He could not, however, recover any overpayment. He left that 2015 refund on the table.

What do you do if you are caught in a work situation like Golden? It is not a perfect answer, but file with the information you can readily assemble. Pay someone to prepare the return (within reason, of course). Hey, maybe you missed interest on a small money market account or took the standard deduction when itemized deductions would have given you a smidgeon more. The IRS will let you know about the first one (computer matching), and if there is enough money there you can amend later (the second one). At least you will get your basic refund claim in.

Our case this time was Golden v Commissioner, T.C. Memo 023-103.

Backup Withholding On A Gig Worker

I am minding my own business when an IRS notice lands in my office. Here is a snip:

Question: is this bad?

Answer: it might be.

Let’s talk about it.

The IRS requires Form 1099-NEC be provided a nonemployee service provider paid over $600 over the course of a year. This is the tax form sent to self-employeds and gig workers.

The acronym “BWH” means backup withholding.

So, we are talking about withholding on nonemployees.

How can this be? Employee withholding is easy to understand: federal income tax, FICA, state income tax and whatnot. Anyone who is a W-2 has seen it – or is seeing it – every pay date. But there is no withholding on a nonemployee. A nonemployee is responsible for his/her own taxes. How do we even get here?

There are several ways. Let’s go through two.

Let’s say that I own a business called Galactic. Galactic hires someone to take care of our IT system. That someone is named Rick, and Rick does business as REM Consulting.

OK.

Rick does work. He sends an invoice for $750. Galactic pays him $750.

Here is our first way to backup withholding.

Rick immediately exceeded the $600 hurdle. He provided covered services, i.e., he is a gig worker. Galactic will send Rick a 1099-NEC at year-end. Presently, that 1099 is at $750. It will increase every time Rick does additional work.

Galactic needs some information from Rick to prepare that 1099: a name, an address, and a taxpayer identification number (TIN). I expect the name and address to be easy, as that would be on Rick’s business card or invoice. The TIN might not be so easy. A common TIN is a social security number. I guess Rick could provide Galactic his SSN, but then again, Rick might not be keen with passing-out his SSN all day every day.

Rick instead is thinking of making REM Consulting a single member LLC. Why? The default tax rule is to disregard a single member LLC as a separate entity. To the IRS, REM Consulting is just Rick (mind you, state rules may be different). Why bother, you wonder? Because REM Consulting can get its own employer identification number (EIN). If I were Rick, I would use that EIN instead of my SSN for all business purposes.

COMMENT: If you read the instructions, REM Consulting technically does not have to apply for an EIN until it has employees. That is true but beside the point. We automatically request an EIN for all new LLC’s – single member or not.

Back to the first way into backup withholding.

Galactic asks Rick for a TIN. Rick says “No.” Why? Because we need Rick to say “No” to continue our discussion.

Galactic is required to start backup withholding immediately, as Rick has already cleared the $600 floor. The withholding rate is 24%. Galactic will withhold $180 and send Rick a check for $570. Galactic will of course have to send that $180 to the IRS (it is withholding after all). Hopefully Rick relents and provides a TIN. If so, Galactic will include his TIN and withholding on the 1099-NEC, and Rick can get his withholding back when he files his personal return.

A second way is when the payor has the wrong TIN. Let’s say that Rick gave Galactic his EIN, but Galactic wrote it down incorrectly. Galactic and Rick are a year into their relationship, and everything is going well, except that Galactic receives a letter from the IRS saying that that Rick’s 1099-NEC is incorrect. The name and TIN do not match.

There is a short period of time allowed for Galactic to review its records and get with Rick if necessary. If the matter is resolved (someone wrote the TIN down incorrectly, for example), then Galactic corrects the matter going forward. That is that, and no backup withholding is required. Galactic does not even have to contact the IRS for permission.

However, say the matter is not resolved. Rick has no interest in helping. Galactic will have to start backup withholding on its next payment to Rick. Mind you, it can later stop withholding if Rick comes to his senses.

Withholding is a pain. There is additional accounting, then one must remit the money to the government and file additional tax returns. Every step has due dates and penalties for not meeting those dates.

Let’s say you receive that IRS notice and blow it off. After all, what is the worst the IRS can do, you ask.

Well, they can hold you responsible for the withholding.

But I didn’t withhold, you answer.

They don’t care. They want their money. You were supposed to withhold from Rick and remit. You chose not to withhold. You now have substitute liability and will have to reach into your own pocket and remit. Perhaps you can ask Rick for reimbursement, but you probably should not pack luggage for that trip.

A few more things about backup withholding:

• There is a form to provide your TIN (of course): Form W-9. It is extremely likely you filled one out when you started your job.
• You might be surprised how many different types of income are subject to backup: interest, dividends, rents and so on. It is not limited to gig income.
• A famous exception to backup is retirement income. Realistically, though, you won’t be able to even open an IRA account with the major players (Vanguard, Fidelity and so on) without providing a TIN upfront.
• It can apply to nonresident foreign nationals, although the withholding rate is different.
• The way to stop backup is to correct the situation that created it in the first place: that is, provide your TIN.

A difference between the two scenarios is when responsibility for withholding begins:

In scenario one, it begins with the first payment to Rick.

In scenario two, it begins more than a year later, upon receipt of a notice from the IRS.

Both scenarios can be bad, but scenario one especially so. At least scenario two is prospective (assuming you do not blow off the multiple notices the IRS will send).

Back to the start of this post. Which scenario do I have: scenario one or scenario two?

I do not know at this moment.

Let’s hope it is not bad. 

What Does It Mean To File A Return?

 

The IRS generally has three years to examine a return and assess additional taxes after it has been filed.

This can put pressure on whether what was filed is a “return.”

I am looking at a case involving this issue.

Mr Quezada (Q) ran a stonemasonry business. He had a number of people working for him over the years. Like many a contractor, he treated these individuals as subcontractors and not employees.

OK.

He filed Form 1099s.

OK.

Most of these 1099s did not include social security numbers.

Oh oh.

This is a problem. If a payor requests a social security number and an individual refuses to provide it, the tax Code requires the payor to withhold “backup withholding.” The same applies if an individual provides a bogus social security number.

Say that you are supposed to pay someone $1,000 for stone masonry work, but they refuse to provide a social security number.

COMMENT: Let’s be honest: we know what is going on here.

You are required to withhold 24% and send it to the IRS. You should pay the person $860 and send $240 to the IRS.

QUESTION: what are the odds that anyone will ever claim the $240?

FURTHER QUESTION: And how could one, since there is no social security number associated with the $240?

Mr Q was supposed to file the following forms with the IRS:

·      Form 1099

·      Form 1096 (the summary of the 1099s)

·      Form 945 (to remit the $240 in our example)

He filed the first two. He did not file the third as he did not withhold.

Mr Q filed for bankruptcy in 2016. The creditors had a chance to file their claims.

In the spirit of bayoneting the dead, the IRS wanted backup withholding taxes from 2005 onward.

It filed its claim – for over $1.2 million.

QUESTION: how could 2005 (or 2006? or 2007?) still be an open tax year?

The IRS gave its argument:

1.    The liability for backup withholding is reported on Form 945.

2.    Mr Q never filed Form 945.

3.    The statute of limitations never started because Mr Q never filed the return.

The IRS was alluding to the Lane-Wells case.

In Lane-Wells the taxpayer filed one type of corporate tax return rather than another, mostly because it thought that it was the first type and not the other. The distinction meant money to the IRS.

The Supreme Court agreed with the IRS.

The IRS likes to consider Lane-Wells as its trump card in case one does not file a return, unintentionally leaves out a schedule or files the wrong form altogether. The courts have fortunately pushed back on this position.

Mr Q had a problem. He had not filed Form 945. Then again, from his perspective there was no Form 945 to file. He was between a rock and a hard spot.

The Appeals Court hearing Mr Q’s case realized the same thing.

The Court reasoned that the issue was not whether Mr Q filed the “magic” form. Rather, it was whether Mr Q filed a return that:

·      Showed the liability for tax, and

·      Allowed calculation of the amount of tax

Here is the Court:

The IRS could determine that Q[uezada] was liable for backup-withholding taxes by looking at the face of his Forms 1099; if a particular form lacked a TIN, then Q[uezada] was liable for backup withholding taxes applied to the entire amount …”

There is the first test.

For each subcontractor who failed to supply a TIN, the IRS could determine the amount that Q[uezada] should have backup withheld by multiplying the statutory flat rate for backup withholding by the amount Q[uezada] paid the subcontractor.”

There is the second test.

The Court decided that Q had filed returns sufficient to give the IRS a heads-up as to the liability and its amount. The IRS could but did not follow up. Why not? Who knows, but the IRS was time-barred by the statute of limitations.

Our case this time was Quezada v IRS, No 19-51000 (5^th Cir. 2020).

Trust Fund Penalty When Your Boss Is The U.S. Government

You may be aware that bad things can happen if an employer fails to remit payroll taxes withheld from employees’ paychecks. There are generally three federal payroll taxes involved when discussing payroll and withholding:

(1)  Federal income taxes withheld

(2)  FICA taxes withheld

(3)  Employer’s share of FICA taxes

The first two are considered “trust fund” taxes. They are paid by the employee, and the employer is merely acting as agent in their eventual remittance to the IRS. The third is the employer’s own money, so it is not considered “trust fund.”

Let’s say that the employer is having a temporary (hopefully) cash crunch. It can be tempting to borrow these monies for more urgent needs, like meeting next week’s payroll (sans the taxes), paying rent and keeping the lights on.  Hopefully the company can catch-up before too long and that any damage is minimal.

I get it.

The IRS does not.

There is an excellent reason: the trust fund money does not belong to the employer. It is the employees’ money.  The IRS considers it theft.

Triggering one the biggest penalties in the Code: the trust fund penalty.

We have in the past referred to it as the “big boy” penalty, and you want nothing to do with it. It brings two nasty traits:

(1)  The rate is 100%. Yep, the penalty is equal to the trust fund taxes themselves.

(2)  The IRS can go after whoever is responsible, jointly or severally.

Let’s expand on the second point. Let’s say that there are three people at the company who can sign checks and decide who gets paid. The IRS will – as a generalization – consider all three responsible persons for purposes of the penalty. The IRS can go after one, two, or all three. Whoever they go after can be held responsible for all of the trust fund taxes – 100% - not just their 1/3 share. The IRS wants its money, and the person who just ponied 100% is going to have to separately sue the other two for their share. The IRS does not care about that part of the story.

How do you defend against this penalty?

It is tough if you have check-signing authority and can prioritize who gets paid. The IRS will want to know why you did not prioritize them, and there are very few acceptable responses to that question.

Let’s take a look at the Myers case.

Steven Myers was the CFO and co-president of two companies. The two were in turn owned by another company which was licensed by the Small Business Administration as a Small Business Investment Company (SBIC).  The downside to this structure is that the SBA can place the SBIC into receivership (think bankruptcy). The SBA did just that.

In 2009 the two companies Myers worked for failed to remit payroll taxes.

Oh oh.

However, it was an SBA representative – remember, the SBA is running the parent company – who told Myers to prioritize vendors other than the IRS.

Meyers did so.

And the IRS slapped him with the big boy penalty.

QUESTION: Do you think Myers has an escape, especially since he was following the orders of the SBA?

At first it seems that there is an argument, since it wasn’t just any boss who was telling him not to pay. It was a government agency.

However, precedence is a mile long where the Court has slapped down the my-boss-told-me-not-to-pay argument. Could there be a different answer when the boss is the government itself?

The Court did not take long in reaching its decision:

So, the narrow question before us is whether …. applies with equal force when a government agency receiver tells a taxpayer not to pay trust fund taxes. We hold that it does. We cannot apply different substantive law simply because the receiver in this case was the SBA."

Myers owed the penalty.

What do you do if you are in this position?

One possibility is to terminate your check-signing authority and relinquish decision-making authority over who gets paid.

And if you cannot?

You have to quit.

I am not being flippant. You really have to quit. Unless you are making crazy money, you are not making enough to take on the big-boy penalty.

No Soup For You!

“No soup for you!”

The reference of course is to the soup Nazi in the Seinfield television series. His name is Al Yegeneh. You can still buy his soup should you find yourself in New York or New Jersey.

However, it is not Al who we are interested in.

We instead are interested in Robert Bertrand, the CEO of Soupman, Inc, a company that licenses Al’s likeness and recipes. Think franchise and you are on the right track.

Bertrand however has drawn the ire of the IRS. He has been charged with disbursing approximately $3 million of unreported payroll, in the form of cash and stock.

The IRS says that $3 million of payroll is about $600,000 of unpaid federal payroll taxes.    

Payroll taxes – as we have discussed before – have some of the nastiest penalties going.

And that is just for paying the taxes late.

Do not pay the taxes – as Bertrand is charged – and the problem only escalates. He faces up to five years in prison. His daughter co-signed a $50,000 bond so he could get out of jail.

BTW the judge also ordered him to hire an attorney.

COMMENT: I don’t get it either. One of the first things I would have done was to hire a tax attorney.

I have not been able to discover which flavor of stock-as-compensation Soupman, Inc used, although I have a guess.

My guess is that Soupman Inc used nonqualified stock options.

COMMENT: There are multiple ways to incorporate stock into a compensation package. Nonqualified options (“nonquals” or “NSO’s”) are one, but qualified stock options (“ISO’s”) or restricted stock awards (“RSA’s”) are also available. Today we are talking only about nonquals.

Using nonquals, Soupman Inc would not grant stock immediately. The options would have a delay – such as requiring one to work there for a certain number of years before being able to exercise the option. Then there is the matter of price: will the option exercise for stock value at the time (not much of an incentive, if you ask me) or at some reduced price (zero, for example, would be a great incentive).

Let’s use some numbers to understand how nonquals work.

• Let’s start with a great key employee that we are very interested in retaining. We will call him Steve.
• Let’s grant Steve nonqualified options for 50,000 shares. Steve can buy stock at $10/share. As the stock is presently selling at $20/share, this is a good deal for Steve.
• But Steve cannot buy the stock right now. No, no, he has to wait at least 4 years, then he has six years after that to exercise. He can exercise once a year, after which he has to wait until next year. He can exercise as much of the stock as he likes, up to the 50,000-share maximum.
• There is a serious tax trap in here that we need to avoid, and it has to do with Steve having unfettered discretion over the option. For example, we cannot allow Steve to borrow against the option or allow him to sell the option to another person. The IRS could then argue that Steve is so close to actually having cash that he is taxable – right now. That would be bad.

Let’s fast forward six years and Steve exercises the option in full. The stock is worth $110 per share.

Steve has federal income tax withholding.

Steve has FICA withholding.

Steve has state tax withholding.

Where is the cash coming from for all this withholding?

The easiest solution is if Steve is still getting a regular paycheck. The employer would dip into that paycheck to take out all the withholdings on the option exercise.

OBSERVATION: Another way would be for Steve to sell enough stock to cover his withholdings. The nerd term for this is “cashless.”

It may be that the withholdings are so large they would swamp Steve’s regular paycheck. Maybe Steve writes a check to cover the withholdings.

COMMENT: If I know Steve, he is retiring when the checks clear.

Steve has income. It will show up on his W-2. He will include that option exercise (via his W-2) on his tax return for the year. The government got its vig.

How about the employer?

Steve’s employer has a tax deduction equal to the income included on Steve’s W-2.

The employer also has employer payroll taxes, such as:

·      Employer FICA

·      Federal unemployment

·      State unemployment

Let’s be honest, the employer payroll taxes are a drop in the bucket compared to Steve’s income from exercising the option.

Why would Steve’s employer do this?

There are two reasons. One is obvious; the second perhaps not as much.

One reason is that the employer wants to hold onto Steve. The stock option serves as a handcuff. There is enough there to entice Steve to stay, at least for a few years.

The second is that the employer manufactured a tax deduction almost out of thin air.

Huh?

How many shares did Steve exercise?

50,000.

What was the bargain element in the option exercise?

$110 - $10 = $100. Times 50,000 shares is $5,000,000 to Steve.

How much cash did the employer part with to pay Steve?

Whatever the employer FICA, federal and state unemployment taxes are – undoubtedly a lot less than $5,000,000.

Tax loophole! How Congress allow this? Unfair! Canadian football!

I disagree.

Why?

To my way of thinking, Steve is paying taxes on $5,000,000, so it is only fair that his employer gets to deduct the same $5,000,000. To argue otherwise is to wander into the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping territory.    

But, but … the employer did not actually pay $5,000,000.
   

COMMENT: Sometimes the numbers go exponential. Mark Zuckerberg, for example, had options to purchase 120 million shares for just 6 cents per share when Facebook went public at $38 per share. The “but, but …” crowd would want to see a $4,550,000,000 check.

I admit: so would I. I would frame the check. After I cashed it. It would also be my Christmas card every year.

You are starting to understand why Silicon Valley start-up companies like nonqualified stock options. Their cost right now is nada, but it can be a very nice tax deduction down the road when the company hits it big.

I suspect that Soupman, Inc did something like the above.

They just forgot to send in Steve’s withholdings.

LLC Members and W-2s

There is a tax issue that has dogged advisors for years. 

It has to do with limited liability companies.

What sets it up is tax law from general partnerships.

A general partnership is the Gunsmoke of partnerships. The “general” does not means everybody participates. It does mean that everyone is liable if the partnership gets sued.

Whoa. There is clearly a huge downside here.

Which leads us to limited partnerships. Here only a general partner takes on that liability thing. A limited partner put his/her capital account at risk, but nothing more. Forget about signing on that bank debt.

Let’s present the granddaddy of self-employment tax law:

·        A general partner is considered self-employed and pays self-employment tax on his/her distributable income, irrespective of his/her own involvement in the trade or business.

·        A limited partner is presumed to not be involved in the trade or business of the partnership; therefore, he/she does not pay self-employment (SE)  tax on his/her distributable income.

o   There is an exception for “guaranteed payments, which is akin to a salary. Those are subject to SE tax.

How can we differentiate a general partner from a limited partner?

It is that liability thing. The entity is likely being formed under state “limited partnership” law rather than “general partnership” law. In addition, the partnership agreement will normally include a section specifying in detail that the generals run the show and the limiteds are not to speak until spoken to.

Then came the limited liability companies (LLCs).

These caused tax planners to swoon because they allowed a member to actually participate in the business without forfeiting that liability protection.

COMMENT: BTW the banks are quite aware of this. That is why the bank will likely request the member to also sign personally. Still that is preferable to being a general, where receipt of the partnership interest immediately makes you liable.

Did you catch the use of the word “member?” Equity participants in an LLC are referred to as “members,” not “partners.”

So how are LLCs taxed?

Like a partnership. 

COMMENT: I know. All we did was take that car around the block.

Let’s return to that self-employment issue: is a “member” subject to self-employment tax because he/she participates (like a general) or not subject because he/she has limited liability (like a limited)?

It would help if the IRS had published guidance in this area since the days of the Rockford Files. Many advisors, including me, reason that once the LLC is income-taxable as a partnership then it is also self-employment taxable as a partnership. That is what “like a” means. If you work there, it is self-employment income to you.

But I do not have to go far to find another accountant who disagrees with me.

What to do?

Some advisors allow their LLC member-clients to draw W-2s.

Some do not.

There is a problem, however: a member is not considered an employee. And one has to be an employee to receive a W-2.

The fallback reasoning for a long time has been that a member “is like” an employee, in the same sense that I am “like” LeBron James.

It is not technically-vigorous reasoning, and I could not guard LeBron with a squad of Marines by my side.

Then the IRS said that it would respect a single-member LLC as the employer of record, rather than going up the ownership chain to whoever the sole owner is. The IRS would henceforth treat the single-member as a corporate employer for employment taxes, although the single-member would continue to be disregarded for income tax purposes (it is confusing, I know).  The IRS included exceptions, examples and what-nots, but they did not include one that addressed LLC members directly.

The members-want-W-2s school used this notice to further argue their position. You have the LLC set-up a single-member subsidiary LLC and have the subsidiary – now considered a corporate employer – issue W-2s to the members. Voila!    

Let’s be clear why people care about this issue: estimated taxes. People do not like paying estimated taxes. It requires a chunk of money every three months. Members pay estimated taxes. Members would prefer withholding. Withholding comes out of every check, which is less painful, and don’t even talk about that three-month thing.    

The IRS has backed-off the member/W-2 issue for a long time.

However the IRS recently issued guidance that the above “parent-subsidiary” structure will not work, and taxpayers have until August 1 to comply. The IRS did this by firing its big guns: it issued Regulations. There are enhanced disclosure requirements when one takes a position contrary to Regulations, and very few practitioners care to do that. It is considered a “call me to book the audit” disclosure.

The IRS has given these advisors little more than two whole months to rope-in their errant LLC clients. 

Although the window is tight, I agree with the IRS on this one, except for that two-month thing. They feel they have floated the change long enough to alert practitioners. I would have made it effective January 1, 2017, if only for administrative ease. 

Still this is an area that needs improvement. While the IRS is concerned that member W-2s may lead to members inappropriately participating in benefit plans, there is also mounting demand for member withholding. 

Perhaps the answer is to allow withholding but to use something other than a W-2. One could design yet another 1099, and the member would attach it to his/her tax return to document the withholding. Any additional paperwork is a bother at the LLC level, but it would just join the list of bothersome things. The members wanting withholding would have to employ their powers of persuasion.

Sounds like the beginning of a compromise.