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Saturday, November 18, 2023

Another Backup Withholding Story

 

We talked not too long ago about backup withholding.

What is it?

Think Forms 1099 and you are mostly there.

The IRS wants reporting for many types of payments, such as:

·       Interest

·       Dividends

·       Rents

·       Royalties

·       Commissions and fees

·       Gambling winnings

·       Gig income

Reporting requires an identification number, and the common identification number for an individual is a social security number.

The IRS wants to know that whoever is being paid will report the income. The payor starts the virtuous cycle by reporting the payment to the IRS. It also means that – if the payee does not provide the payor with an identification number - the payor is required to withhold and remit taxes on behalf of the payee.

You want to know how this happens … a lot?

Pay someone in cash.

There is a reason you are paying someone in cash, and that reason is that you probably have no intention of reporting the payment – as a W-2, as a 1099, as anything – to anyone.

It is all fun and games until the IRS shows up. Then it can be crippling.

I had the following bright shiny drop into my office recently:     

    

The client filed the 1099 and also responded to the first IRS notice.

It could have gone better.

That 24% is backup withholding, and I am the tax Merlin that is supposed to “take care of” this. Yay me.

This case was not too bad, as it involved a single payee.

How did it happen?

The client issued a 1099 to someone without including a social security number. They filled-in “do not know” or “unknown” in the box for the social security number.

Sigh.

Sometimes you do not know what you do not know.

Here is a question, and I am being candid: would I send in a 1099 to the IRS if I did not have the payee’s social security number?

Oh, I understand the ropes. I am supposed to send a 1099 if I pay someone more than $600 for the performance of services and yada yada yada. If I don’t, I can be subject to a failure to file penalty (likely $310). There is also a failure to provide penalty (likely $310 again). I suppose the IRS could still go after me for the backup withholding, but that is not a given.

Let me see: looks like alternative one is a $620 given and alternative two is a $38,245 given.

I am not saying, I am just saying.

Back to our bright shiny.

What to do?

I mentioned that the payment went to one person.

What if we obtained an affidavit from that person attesting that they reported the payment on their tax return? Would that get the IRS to back down?

It happens enough that the IRS has a specific form for it.               

We filled in the above form and are having the client send it to the payee. We are fortunate, as they have a continuing and friendly relationship. She will sign, date, and return the form. We will then attach a transmittal (Form 4670) and send the combo to the IRS. The combo is considered a penalty abatement request, and I am expecting abatement.

Is it a panacea?

Nope, and it may not work in many common situations, such as:

(1)  One never obtained payee contact information.

(2)  A one-off transaction. One did not do business with the payee either before or since.

(3)  The payee moved, and one does not know how to contact him/her.

(4)  There are multiple payees. This could range from a nightmare to an impossibility.

(5)  The payee does not want to help, for whatever reason.

Is there a takeaway from this harrowing tale?

Think of this area of tax as safe:sorry. Obtain identification numbers (think Form W-9) before cutting someone their first check. ID numbers are not required for corporations (such as the utility company or Verizon), but one is almost certainly required for personal services (such as gig work). I suppose it could get testy if the payee feels strongly about seemingly never-ending tax reporting, but what are you supposed to do?

Better to vent that frustration up front rather than receive a backup withholding notice for $38,245.

And wear out your CPA.


Sunday, May 14, 2023

Backup Withholding On A Gig Worker

I am minding my own business when an IRS notice lands in my office. Here is a snip:



Question: is this bad?

Answer: it might be.

Let’s talk about it.

The IRS requires Form 1099-NEC be provided a nonemployee service provider paid over $600 over the course of a year. This is the tax form sent to self-employeds and gig workers.

The acronym “BWH” means backup withholding.

So, we are talking about withholding on nonemployees.

How can this be? Employee withholding is easy to understand: federal income tax, FICA, state income tax and whatnot. Anyone who is a W-2 has seen it – or is seeing it – every pay date. But there is no withholding on a nonemployee. A nonemployee is responsible for his/her own taxes. How do we even get here?

There are several ways. Let’s go through two.

Let’s say that I own a business called Galactic. Galactic hires someone to take care of our IT system. That someone is named Rick, and Rick does business as REM Consulting.

OK.

Rick does work. He sends an invoice for $750. Galactic pays him $750.

Here is our first way to backup withholding.

Rick immediately exceeded the $600 hurdle. He provided covered services, i.e., he is a gig worker. Galactic will send Rick a 1099-NEC at year-end. Presently, that 1099 is at $750. It will increase every time Rick does additional work.

Galactic needs some information from Rick to prepare that 1099: a name, an address, and a taxpayer identification number (TIN). I expect the name and address to be easy, as that would be on Rick’s business card or invoice. The TIN might not be so easy. A common TIN is a social security number. I guess Rick could provide Galactic his SSN, but then again, Rick might not be keen with passing-out his SSN all day every day.

Rick instead is thinking of making REM Consulting a single member LLC. Why? The default tax rule is to disregard a single member LLC as a separate entity. To the IRS, REM Consulting is just Rick (mind you, state rules may be different). Why bother, you wonder? Because REM Consulting can get its own employer identification number (EIN). If I were Rick, I would use that EIN instead of my SSN for all business purposes.

COMMENT: If you read the instructions, REM Consulting technically does not have to apply for an EIN until it has employees. That is true but beside the point. We automatically request an EIN for all new LLC’s – single member or not.

Back to the first way into backup withholding.

Galactic asks Rick for a TIN. Rick says “No.” Why? Because we need Rick to say “No” to continue our discussion.

Galactic is required to start backup withholding immediately, as Rick has already cleared the $600 floor. The withholding rate is 24%. Galactic will withhold $180 and send Rick a check for $570. Galactic will of course have to send that $180 to the IRS (it is withholding after all). Hopefully Rick relents and provides a TIN. If so, Galactic will include his TIN and withholding on the 1099-NEC, and Rick can get his withholding back when he files his personal return.

A second way is when the payor has the wrong TIN. Let’s say that Rick gave Galactic his EIN, but Galactic wrote it down incorrectly. Galactic and Rick are a year into their relationship, and everything is going well, except that Galactic receives a letter from the IRS saying that that Rick’s 1099-NEC is incorrect. The name and TIN do not match.

There is a short period of time allowed for Galactic to review its records and get with Rick if necessary. If the matter is resolved (someone wrote the TIN down incorrectly, for example), then Galactic corrects the matter going forward. That is that, and no backup withholding is required. Galactic does not even have to contact the IRS for permission.

However, say the matter is not resolved. Rick has no interest in helping. Galactic will have to start backup withholding on its next payment to Rick. Mind you, it can later stop withholding if Rick comes to his senses.

Withholding is a pain. There is additional accounting, then one must remit the money to the government and file additional tax returns. Every step has due dates and penalties for not meeting those dates.

Let’s say you receive that IRS notice and blow it off. After all, what is the worst the IRS can do, you ask.

Well, they can hold you responsible for the withholding.

But I didn’t withhold, you answer.

They don’t care. They want their money. You were supposed to withhold from Rick and remit. You chose not to withhold. You now have substitute liability and will have to reach into your own pocket and remit. Perhaps you can ask Rick for reimbursement, but you probably should not pack luggage for that trip.

A few more things about backup withholding:

  • There is a form to provide your TIN (of course): Form W-9. It is extremely likely you filled one out when you started your job.
  • You might be surprised how many different types of income are subject to backup: interest, dividends, rents and so on. It is not limited to gig income.
  • A famous exception to backup is retirement income. Realistically, though, you won’t be able to even open an IRA account with the major players (Vanguard, Fidelity and so on) without providing a TIN upfront.
  • It can apply to nonresident foreign nationals, although the withholding rate is different.
  • The way to stop backup is to correct the situation that created it in the first place: that is, provide your TIN.

A difference between the two scenarios is when responsibility for withholding begins:

In scenario one, it begins with the first payment to Rick.

In scenario two, it begins more than a year later, upon receipt of a notice from the IRS.

Both scenarios can be bad, but scenario one especially so. At least scenario two is prospective (assuming you do not blow off the multiple notices the IRS will send).

Back to the start of this post. Which scenario do I have: scenario one or scenario two?

I do not know at this moment.

Let’s hope it is not bad. 


Sunday, June 26, 2022

You Received An IRS CP2000 Notice

I read a considerable amount on a routine basis. It might be fairer to say that I skim, changing it to a read if I think that something might apply here at Galactic Command.

I came across something recently that made me scoff out loud.

Somebody somewhere was talking about never receiving an IRS CP2000 notice again.

Yeah, right.

What is a CP2000?

You know it as the computer match. The IRS cross-checks your numbers against their numbers. If there is a difference – and the difference is more than the cost of a stamp – their computers will generate a CP2000 notice.

How does the IRS get its numbers?

Easy. Think of all the tax reporting forms that you have received over the years, such as:

W-2 (your job)   

1099-INT (interest from a bank)

1099-DIV (dividends from a mutual fund)

1099-SA (distribution from an HSA)

1099-B (proceeds from selling stock)

It is near endless, and every year or so Congress and/or the IRS requires additional reporting on something. There is already a new one for 2022: the minimum threshold for payment card reporting has been reduced from $20,000 to $600. Think Venmo or Pay Pal and you are there.

If the IRS has information you didn’t report: bam! Receive a CP2000.

It happens all the time. You closed a bank account but forgot about the part of the year that it did exist.  You traded on Robinhood for a couple of weeks, lost money and tried to forget about it. You reimbursed yourself medical expenses from your HSA.   

The common denominator: you forgot to tell your tax preparer.

We get a ton of these.

Then your tax preparer might have caused it.

Maybe you did a 60-day roll on an IRA. Your preparer needs to code the distribution a certain way. Flub it and get a CP2000.

These you try to never repeat, as you are just making work for yourself.

Is this thing an audit?

Technically no, but you might still wind-up owing money.

The notice is proposing to make changes to your return. It is giving you a chance to respond. It is not a bill, at least not yet, but ignore the notice and it will become a bill.

The thing about these notices is that no one at the IRS reviews them before they go out. Yours are the first set of eyes to look upon them, and your preparer the second when you send the notice to him or her. You there have one of the biggest frustrations many practitioners have: the IRS sends these things out like candy; many are wrong and would be detected if the IRS even bothered. Attach an explanation to your return in the hope of cutting-off a notice? Puhleeze.

You really need to respond to a CP2000. I have lost track of how many clients over the years have blown these notices off, coming to see me years later because some mysterious tax debt has been siphoning their tax refunds. Combine this with the statute of limitations – remember, three years to file or amend – and you can be digging a hole for yourself.

If you agree with the notice, then responding is easy: check the box that says you agree. The IRS will happily send you a bill. Heck, don’t even bother to reply. They will send you the same bill.

If you disagree, then it can be more complicated.

If the matter is relatively easy – say an HSA distribution – I might attach the required tax form to my written response, explaining that the form was overlooked when filing.

If the matter is more complicated – say different types of mismatches – then I might change my answer. My experience – especially in recent years – is that the IRS is doing a substandard job with correspondence requiring one to think. They have repetitively forced me into Appeals and unnecessary procedural work.  My response to more complicated CP2000 notices? I am increasingly filing amended returns. Mind you, the IRS DOES NOT want me to do this. Neither do I, truthfully, but the IRS must first give me reason to trust its work. I am not there right now.

You can fax your response, fortunately.

You might try to call the IRS, but I suspect that will turn out poorly. Shame, as that would be the easiest way to request additional time to reply to the CP2000.

Whatever you do, you have 30 days. The days start counting beginning with the date of the letter, so mail delays can cost you.

Is the IRS gunning for you?

Remember: no one at the IRS has even looked at the notice you received.

 


Sunday, March 18, 2012

IRS To Monitor EINs

The IRS this past Wednesday issued proposed regulations requiring taxpayers with employer identification numbers (EINs) to update them periodically with the IRS.
EINs are issued to businesses, trusts and estates.
What the IRS is concerned about is listing nominees on the original EIN application as officers, partners and what not. The nominee’s authority to act and represent thereafter expires, sometimes as soon as the EIN is received, thus obscuring the true ownership of the entity.
The IRS will be revising its application form – the SS-4 – to identify when a nominee or agent is obtaining an EIN for a principal. The IRS will refer to such nominee as a “responsible party.”
The IRS also states that it will provide further rules on updating EINs – such as forms and frequency - in the future.