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Sunday, July 6, 2025

An Estate And An IRA Rollover

 

Retirement accounts can create headaches with the income taxation of an estate.

We know that – if one is wealthy enough – there can be an estate tax upon death. I doubt that is a risk for most of us. The new tax bill (the One Big Beautiful …), for example, increases the lifetime estate tax exclusion to $15 million, with future increases for inflation. Double that $15 million if you are married. Yeah, even with today’s prices $30 million is pretty strong.

What we are talking about is not estate tax, however, but income tax on an estate.

How can an estate have income tax, you wonder? The concept snaps into place if you think of an estate with will-take-a-while-to-dispose assets. Let’s say that someone passes away owning the following:

·       Checking and savings accounts

·       Brokerage accounts

·       IRAs and 401(k)s

·       Real estate

·       Collectibles

The checking and savings accounts are easy to transfer to the estate beneficiaries. The brokerage accounts are a little more work - you would want to obtain date-of-death values, for example – but not much more than the bank accounts. The IRAs and 401(k)s can be easy or hard, depending on whether the decedent left a designated beneficiary. Real estate can also be easy or hard. If we are selling a principal residence, then – barring deferred maintenance or unique circumstances – it should be no more difficult than selling any other house. Change this to commercial property and you may have a different answer. For example, a presently unoccupied but dedicated structure (think a restaurant) in a smaller town might take a while to sell. And who knows about collectibles; it depends on the collectible, I suppose.

Transferring assets to beneficiaries or selling assets and transferring the cash can take time, sometimes years. The estate will have income or loss while this is happening, meaning it will file its own income tax return. In general, you do not want an estate to show taxable income (or much of it). A single individual, for example, hits the maximum tax bracket (37%) at approximately $626,000 of taxable income. An estate hits the 37% bracket at slightly less than $16 grand of taxable income. Much of planning in this area is moving income out of the estate to the beneficiaries, where hopefully it will face a lower tax rate.

IRAs and 401(k)s have a habit of blowing up the planning.

In my opinion, IRAs and 401(k)s should not even go to an estate. You probably remember designating a beneficiary when you enrolled in your 401(k) or opened an IRA. If married, your first (that is, primary) beneficiary was probably your spouse. You likely named your kids as secondary beneficiaries. Upon your death, the IRA or 401(k) will pass to the beneficiary(ies) under contract law. It happens automatically and does not need the approval – or oversight – of a probate judge.

So how does an IRA or 401(k) get into your estate for income taxation?

Easy: you never named a beneficiary.

It still surprises me – after all these years - how often this happens.

So now you have a chunk of money dropping into a taxable entity with sky-high tax rates.

And getting it out of the estate can also present issues.

Let’s look at the Ozimkoski case.

Suzanne and Thomas Ozimkoski were married. He died in 2006, leaving a simple two-page will and testament instructing that all his property (with minimal exceptions) was to go to his wife. Somewhere in there he had an IRA with Wachovia.

During probate, his son (Ozimkoski Junior) filed two petitions with the court. One was for outright revocation of his father’s will.

Upon learning of this, Wachovia immediately froze the IRA account.

Eventually Suzanne and Junior came to an agreement: she would pay him $110 grand (and a 1967 Harley), and he would go away. Junior withdrew both petitions before the probate court.

Wachovia of course needed copies: of the settlement, of probate court approval, and so on). There was one more teeny tiny thing:

… Jr had called and told a different Wachovia representative that he did not want an inherited IRA.”

What does this mean?

Easy. Unless that IRA was a Roth, somebody was going to pay tax when money came out of the account. That is the way regular IRAs work: it is not taxable now but is taxable later when someone withdraws the money.

My first thought would be to split the IRA into two accounts: one remaining with the estate and the second going to Junior.

Junior however understood that he would be taxed when he took out $110 grand. Junior did not want to pay tax: that is what “he did not want an inherited IRA” means.

It appears that Suzanne was not well-advised. She did the following: 

·       Wachovia transferred $235 grand from the estate IRA to her IRA.

·       Her IRA then distributed $141 grand to her.

·       She in turn transferred $110 grand to Junior.

Wachovia issued Form 1099-R to Suzanne for the distribution. There was no 1099-R to Junior, of course. Suzanne did not report the 1099-R because some of it went (albeit indirectly) to Junior. The IRS computers hummed and whirred, she received notices about underreporting income, and we eventually find her in Tax Court.

She argued that the $110 grand was not her money. It was Junior’s, pursuant to the settlement.

The IRS said: show me where Junior is a beneficiary of the IRA.

You don’t understand, Suzanne argued. There is something called a “conduit” IRA. That is what this was. I was the conduit to get the money to Junior.

The IRS responded: a conduit involves a trust, with Junior as the ultimate beneficiary of the trust. Is there a trust or trust agreement we can look at?

There was not, of course.

Junior received $110 grand, and the money came from the IRA, but Junior was no more a beneficiary of that IRA than you or I.

Back to general tax principles: who is taxed on an IRA distribution?

The person who receives the distribution – that is, the IRA beneficiary.

What if that person immediately transfers the distribution monies to someone else?

Barring unique circumstances – like a conduit – the transfer changes nothing. If Suzanne gave the money to her church, she would have a charitable donation. If she gave it to her kids, she might have a reportable gift. If she bought a Mercedes, then she bought an expensive personal asset. None of those scenarios keeps her from being taxed on the distribution.

Here is the Court:

What is clear from the record before the Court is that petitioner’s probate attorney failed to counsel here on the full tax ramifications of paying Mr. Ozimkoski, Jr., $110,000 from her own IRA.”

While the Court is sympathetic to petitioner’s argument, the distributions she received were from her own IRA and therefore are considered taxable income to her …”

She was liable for the taxes and inevitable penalties the IRS piled on.

Was this situation salvageable?

Not if Junior wanted $110,000 grand with no tax.

It was inevitable that someone was going to pay tax.

If Junior did not want tax, the $110 grand should be reduced by taxes that either Suzanne or the estate would pay on his behalf.

If Junior refused, then the settlement was not for $110 grand; it instead was for $110 grand plus taxes. That arrangement might have been acceptable to Suzanne, but – considering that she went to Tax Court – I don’t think it was.

The Court noted that Suzanne was laboring.

… she was overwhelmed by circumstances surrounding the will contest.”

While the Court is sympathetic to petitioner’s situation …”

Let me check on something. Yep, this is a pro se case.

Suzanne was relying on her probate attorney for tax advice. It seems clear that her attorney did not spot the issue. I would say Suzanne’s reliance on her attorney was misplaced.

Our case this time was Suzanne D. Oster Ozimkoski v Commissioner, T.C. Memo 2016-228.

Sunday, October 22, 2023

Sonny Corleone’s IRA


I remember him as Sonny Corleone in The Godfather. He is James Caan, and he passed away in July 2022.

I am reading a Tax Court case involving his (more correctly: his estate’s) IRA.

There is a hedge fund involved.

For the most part, we are comfortable with “traditional” investments: money markets, CDs, stocks, bonds, mutual funds holding stocks and bonds and the mutual fund’s updated sibling: an ETF holding stocks and bonds.

Well, there are also nontraditional investments: gold, real estate, cryptocurrency, private equity, hedge funds. I get it: one is seeking additional diversification, low correlation to existing investments, enhanced protection against inflation and so forth.

For the most part, I consider nontraditional investments as more appropriate for wealthier individuals. Most people I know have not accumulated sufficient wealth to need nontraditional assets.

There are also tax traps with nontraditional assets in an IRA. We’ve talked before about gold. This time let’s talk about hedge funds.

James Caan had his cousin (Paul Caan) manage two IRAs at Credit Suisse. Paul wanted to take his career in a different direction, and he transferred management of the IRAs to Michael Margiotta. Margiotta left Credit Suisse in 2004, eventually winding up at UBS.

The wealthy are not like us. Caan, for example, utilized Philpott, Bills, Stoll and Meeks (PBSM) as his business manager. PBSM would:

·       Receive all Caan’s mail

·       Pay his bills

·       Send correspondence

·       Prepare his tax returns

·       Act as liaison with his financial advisors, attorneys, and accountants

I wish.

Caan had 2 IRAs at UBS. One was a regular, traditional, Mayberry-style IRA.

The second one owned a hedge fund.

The tax Code requires the IRA trustee or custodian to file reports every year. You probably have seen them: how much you contributed over the last year, or the balance in the IRA at year-end. Innocuous enough, except possibly for that year-end thing. Think nontraditional asset. How do you put a value on it? It depends, I suppose. It is easy enough to look up the price of gold. What if the asset is trickier: undeveloped land outside Huntsville, Alabama – or a hedge fund?

UBS had Caan sign an agreement for the IRA and its hedge fund.

The Client must furnish to the Custodian in writing the fair market value of each Investment annually by the 15th day of each January, valued as of the preceding December 31st, and within twenty days of any other written request from the Custodian, valued as of the date specified in such request. The Client acknowledges, understands and agrees that a statement that the fair market value is undeterminable, or that cost basis should be used is not acceptable and the Client agrees that the fair market value furnished to the Custodian will be obtained from the issuer of the Investment (which includes the general partner or managing member thereof). The Client acknowledges, understands and agrees that if the issuer is unable or unwilling to provide a fair market value, the Client shall obtain the fair market value from an independent, qualified appraiser and the valuation shall be furnished on the letterhead of the person providing the valuation.

Got it. You have to provide a number by January 15 following year-end. If it is a hassle, you have to obtain (and you pay for) an appraisal.

What if you don’t?

The Client acknowledges, understands and agrees that the Custodian shall rely upon the Client’s continuing attention, and timely performance, of this responsibility. The Client acknowledges, understands and agrees that if the Custodian does not receive a fair market value as of the preceding December 31, the Custodian shall distribute the Investment to the Client and issue an IRS Form 1099–R for the last available value of the Investment.

Isn’t that a peach? Hassle UBS and they will distribute the IRA and send you a 1099-R. Unless that IRA is rolled over correctly, that “distribution” is going to cost you “taxes.”

Let’s start the calendar.

March 2015

UBS contacted the hedge fund for a value.

June 2015

Margiotta left UBS for Merrill Lynch.

August 2015

Striking out, UBS contacted PBSM for a value. 

October 2015

Hearing nothing, UBS sent PBSM a letter saying UBS was going to resign as IRA custodian in November. 

October 2015

Margiotta had Caan sign paperwork to transfer the IRAs from UBS to Merrill Lynch.

There was a problem: all the assets were transferred except for the hedge fund.

December 2015

UBS sent PBSM a letter saying that it had distributed the hedge fund to Caan.

January 2016

UBS sent a 1099-R.

March 2016

Caan’s accountant at PBSM sent an e-mail to Merrill Lynch asking why the hedge fund still showed UBS as custodian.

December 2016

Margiotta requested the hedge fund liquidate the investment and send the cash to Merrill Lynch. 

November 2017

The IRS sent the computer matching letter wanting tax on the IRA distribution. How did the IRS know about it? Because UBS sent that 1099-R.

The IRS wanted taxes of almost $780 grand, with penalties over $155 grand.

That caught everyone’s attention.

July 2018

Caan requested a private letter ruling from the IRS.

Caan wanted mitigation from an IRA rollover that went awry. This would be a moment for PBSM (or Merrill) to throw itself under the bus: taxpayer relied on us as experts to execute the transaction and was materially injured by our error or negligence….

That is not wanted they requested, though. They requested a waiver of the 60-day requirement for rollover of an IRA distribution.

I get it: accept that UBS correctly issued a 1099 for the distribution but argue that fairness required additional time to transfer the money to Merrill Lynch.

There is a gigantic technical issue, though.

Before that, I have a question: where was PBSM during this timeline? Caan was paying them to open and respond to his mail, including hiring and coordinating experts as needed. Somebody did a lousy job.

The Court wondered the same thing.

Both Margiotta and the PBSM accountant argued they never saw the letters from UBS until litigation started. Neither had known about UBS making a distribution.

Here is the Court:

            We do not find that portion of either witness’ testimony credible.

Explain, please.

We find it highly unlikely that PBSM received all mail from UBS— statements, the Form 1099–R, and other correspondence—except for the key letters (which were addressed to PBSM). Additionally, the March 2016 email between Ms. Cohn and Mr. Margiotta suggests that both of them knew of UBS’s representations that it had distributed the P&A Interest. It seems far more likely that there was simply a lack of communication and coordination between the professionals overseeing Mr. Caan’s affairs, especially given the timing of UBS’s letters, Mr. Margiotta’s move from UBS to Merrill Lynch, and the emails between Mr. Margiotta and Ms. Cohn. If all parties believed that UBS was still the P&A Interest’s custodian, why did no one follow up with UBS when it ceased to mail account statements for the IRAs? And why, if everyone was indeed blindsided by the Form 1099–R, did no one promptly follow up with UBS regarding it? (That followup did not occur until after the IRS issued its Form CP2000.) The Estate has offered no satisfactory explanation to fill these holes in its theory.

I agree with the Court.

I think that PBSM and/or Merrill Lynch should have thrown themselves under the bus.

But I would probably still have lost. Why? Look at this word salad:

        408(d) Tax treatment of distributions.

         (3)  Rollover contribution.

An amount is described in this paragraph as a rollover contribution if it meets the requirements of subparagraphs (A) and (B).

(A)  In general. Paragraph (1) does not apply to any amount paid or distributed out of an individual retirement account or individual retirement annuity to the individual for whose benefit the account or annuity is maintained if-

(i)  the entire amount received (including money and any other property) is paid into an individual retirement account or individual retirement annuity (other than an endowment contract) for the benefit of such individual not later than the 60th day after the day on which he receives the payment or distribution; or

(ii)  the entire amount received (including money and any other property) is paid into an eligible retirement plan for the benefit of such individual not later than the 60th day after the date on which the payment or distribution is received, except that the maximum amount which may be paid into such plan may not exceed the portion of the amount received which is includible in gross income (determined without regard to this paragraph).

I highlighted the phrase “including money and any other property.” There is a case (Lemishow) that read a “same property” requirement into that phrase.

What does that mean in non-gibberish?

It means that if you took cash and property out of UBS, then the same cash and property must go into Merrill Lynch.

Isn’t that what happened?

No.

What came out of UBS?

Well, one thing was that hedge fund that caused this ruckus. UBS said it distributed the hedge fund to Caan. They even issued him a 1099-R for it.

What went into Merrill Lynch?

Margiotta requested the hedge fund sell the investment and send the cash to Merrill Lynch.

Cash went into Merrill Lynch.

What went out was not the same as what went in.

Caan (his estate, actually) was taxable on the hedge fund coming out of the UBS IRA.

Dumb. Unnecessary. Expensive.

Our case this time was Estate of James E. Caan v Commissioner, 161 T.C. No. 6, filed October 18, 2023.


Sunday, July 10, 2022

IRAs and Nonqualified Compensation Plans

Can an erroneous Form 1099 save you from tax and penalties?

It’s an oddball question, methinks. I anticipate the other side of that see-saw is whether one knew, or should have known, better.

Let’s look at the Clair Couturier case.

Clair is a man, by the way. His wife’s is named Vicki.

Clair used to be the president of Noll Manufacturing (Noll).

Clair and Noll had varieties of deferred compensation going on: 

(1)   He owned shares in the company employee stock ownership program (ESOP).

(2)   He had a deferred compensation arrangement (his “Compensation Continuation Agreement”) wherein he would receive monthly payments of $30 grand when he retired.

(3)   He participated in an incentive stock option plan.

(4)   He also participated in another that sounds like a phantom stock arrangement or its cousin. The plan flavor doesn’t matter; no matter what flavor you select Clair is being served nonqualified deferred compensation in a cone.

Sounds to me like Noll was taking care of Clair.

There was a corporate reorganization in 2004.

Someone wanted Clair out.

COMMENT: Let’s talk about an ESOP briefly, as it is germane to what happened here. AN ESOP is a retirement plan. Think of it as 401(k), except that you own stock in the company sponsoring the ESOP and not mutual funds at Fidelity or Vanguard. In this case, Noll sponsored the ESOP, so the ESOP would own Noll stock. How much Noll stock would it own? It can vary. It doesn’t have to be 100%, but it might be. Let’s say that it was 100% for this conversation. In that case, Clair would not own any Noll stock directly, but he would own a ton of stock indirectly through the ESOP.
If someone wanted him out, they would have to buy him out through the ESOP.

Somebody bought out Clair for $26 million.

COMMENT: I wish.

The ESOP sent Clair a Form 1099 reporting a distribution of $26 million. The 1099 indicated that he rolled-over this amount to an IRA.

Clair reported the roll-over on his 2004 tax return. It was just reporting; there is no tax on a roll-over unless someone blows it.

QUESTION: Did someone blow it?

Let’s go back. Clair had four pieces to his deferred compensation, of which the ESOP was but one. What happened to the other three?

Well, I suppose the deal might have been altered. Maybe Clair forfeited the other three. If you pay me enough, I will go away.

Problem:


         § 409 Qualifications for tax credit employee stock ownership plans

So?

        (p)  Prohibited allocations of securities in an S corporation


                      (4)  Disqualified person

Clair was a disqualified person to the ESOP. He couldn’t just make-up whatever deal he wanted. Well, technically he could, but the government reserved the right to drop the hammer.

The government dropped the hammer.

The Department of Labor got involved. The DOL referred the case to the IRS Employee Plan Division. The IRS was looking for prohibited transactions.

Found something close enough.

Clair was paid $26 million for his stock.

The IRS determined that the stock was worth less than a million.

QUESTION: What about that 1099 for the rollover?

ANSWER: You mean the 1099 that apparently was never sent to the IRS?

What was the remaining $25 million about?

It was about those three nonqualified compensation plans.

Oh, oh.

This is going to cost.

Why?

Because only funds in a qualified plan can be rolled to an IRA.

Funds in a nonqualified plan cannot.

Clair rolled $26 million. He should have rolled less than a million.

Wait. In what year did the IRS drop the hammer?

In 2016.

Wasn’t that outside the three-year window for auditing Clair’s return?

Yep.

So Clair was scot-free?

Nope.

The IRS could not adjust Clair’s income tax for 2004. It could however tag him with a penalty for overfunding his IRA by $25 million.

Potato, poetawtoe. Both would clock out under the statute of limitations, right?

Nope.

There is an excise tax (normal folk call it a “penalty”) in the Code for overfunding an IRA. The tax is 6 percent. That doesn’t sound so bad, until you realize that the tax is 6 percent per year until you take the excess contribution out of the IRA.

Clair never took anything out of his IRA.

This thing has been compounding at 6 percent per year for … how many years?

The IRS wanted around $8.5 million.

The Tax Court agreed.

Clair owed.

Big.

Our case this time was Couturier v Commissioner, T.C. Memo 2022-69.


Sunday, August 8, 2021

Wiping Out An Inherited IRA


I came across an unfortunate tax situation this week.

It has to do with IRAs and trusts.

More specifically, naming a trust as a beneficiary of an IRA.

This carried a bit more punch before the tax law change of the SECURE Act, effective for 2020. Prior to the change, best planning for an inherited IRA frequently included a much younger beneficiary. This would reset the required distribution table, with the result that the monies could stay in the IRA for decades longer than if the original owner had lived. This was referred to as the “stretch” IRA. The SECURE Act changed that result for most beneficiaries, and now IRAs have to distribute – in general – over no longer than 10 years. 

Trusts created a problem for stretch IRAs, as trusts do not have an age or life expectancy like people do. This led to something called the “look-through” or “conduit” trust, allowing one to look-through the trust to its beneficiary in arriving at an age and life expectancy to make the stretch work.

The steam has gone out of the conduit trust.

One might still want to use a trust as an IRA beneficiary, though. Why? Here is an example:

The individual beneficiary has special needs. There may be income and/or asset restrictions in order to obtain government benefits.

What is the point, you ask? Doesn’t the IRA have to distribute to the individual over no more than 10 years?

Well … not quite. The IRA has to distribute to the trust (which is the IRA beneficiary) over no more than 10 years. The trust, in turn, does not have to distribute anything to its individual beneficiary.

This is referred to as an accumulation trust. Yes, it gets expensive because the trust tax rates are unreasonably compressed. Still, the nontax objectives may well outweigh the taxes involved in accumulating.

There is something about an inherited IRA that can go wrong, however. Do you remember something called a “60-day rollover?” This is when you receive a check from your IRA and put the money back within 60 days. I am not a fan, and I can think of very few cases where I would use or recommend it.

Why?

Because of Murphy’s Law, what I do and have done for over 35 years.

You know who can do a 60-day rollover?

Only a surviving spouse can use a 60-day rollover on an inherited IRA.  

You know who cannot do a 60-day rollover on an inherited IRA?

Anyone other than a surviving spouse.

It is pretty clear-cut.  

I am looking at someone who did not get the memo.

Here are the highlights:

·      Husband died.

·      The wife rolled the IRA into her own name (this is a special rule only for surviving spouses).

·      The wife died.

·      A trust for the kids inherited the IRA.

No harm, no foul so far.

·      The kids wanted to trade stocks within the IRA.

So it begins.

·      The IRA custodian told the kids that they would have to transfer the money someplace else if they wanted to trade.

No prob. The kids should have the IRA custodian transfer the money directly to the custodian of a new IRA that will let them trade to their heart’s content.

·      The kids had the IRA custodian transfer the money to a non-IRA account owned by the trust.

And so it ends.

The kids were hosed. They tried a Hail Mary by filing a private letter request with the IRS, asking for permission to put the money back in the IRA. The IRS looked at the tax law for a split second … and said “No.”

The IRS was right.

And, as usual, I wonder what happened with calling the tax advisor before moving around not-insignificant amounts of money.  

One can point out that taxes would have been payable as the kids withdrew money, and an inherited IRA has to distribute. If mom died in 2020 or later, the IRA would have to be distributed over no more than 10 years anyway.

Still, 10 years is 10 years. If nothing else, it would have given the kids the opportunity to avoid bunching all IRA income into one taxable year.

Not to mention paying for a private letter ruling, which is not cheap.

I hope they enjoy their stock trading.

The cite for the home gamers is PLR 202125007.

Friday, November 27, 2020

Another IRA-As-A-Business Story Gone Wrong

 

I am not a fan.

We are talking about using your IRA to start or own a business. We are not talking about buying stock in Tesla or Microsoft; rather we are talking about opening a car dealership or rock-climbing facility with monies originating in your retirement account. The area even has its own lingo – ROBS (Rollover for Business Start Ups), for example - of which we have spoken before.

Can it be done correctly and safely?

Probably.

What are the odds that it will not be done – or subsequently maintained - correctly?

I would say astronomical.

For the average person there are simply too many pitfalls.

Let’s look at the Ball case. It is not a standard ROBS, and it presents yet another way how using an IRA in this manner can blow up.

During 2012 Mr Ball had JP Morgan Chase (the custodian of his SEP-IRA) distribute money.

COMMENT: You have to be careful. The custodian can send the money to another IRA. You do not want to receive the money personally.

Mr Ball initiated disbursements requests indicating that each withdrawal was an early disbursement ….

         COMMENT: No!!!

He further instructed Chase to transfer the monies to a checking account he had opened in the name of a Nevada limited liability company.

         COMMENT: That LLC better be owned by the SEP-IRA.

Mr Ball was the sole owner of the LLC.

         COMMENT: We are watching suicide here.

Mr Ball had the LLC loan the funds for a couple of real estate deals. He made a profit, which were deposited back into the LLC.

At year-end Chase issued Forms 1099 showing $209,600 of distributions to Mr Ball.

         COMMENT: Well, that is literally what happened.

Mr Ball did not report the $209,600 on his tax return.

COMMENT: He wouldn’t have to, had he done it correctly.  

The IRS computers caught this and sent out a notice of tax due.

COMMENT: All is not lost. There is a fallback position. As long as the $209,600 was transferred back into an IRA withing 60 days, Mr Ball is OK.

ADDITIONAL COMMENT: BTW, if you go the 60-day route – and I discourage it – it is not unusual to receive an IRS notice. The IRS does not necessarily know that you rolled the money back into an IRA within the 60-day window.

This matter wound up in Tax Court. Mr Ball had an uphill climb. Why? Let’s go through some of technicalities of an IRA.

(1) An IRA is a trust account. That means it requires a trustee. The trustee is responsible for the assets in the IRA.

Chase was the trustee. Guess what Chase did not know about? The LLC owned by Mr Ball himself.

Know what else Chase did not know about? The real estate loans made by the LLC upon receipt of funds from Chase.

If Chase was the trustee for the LLC, it had to be among the worst trustees ever. 

(2)  Assets owned by the IRA should be named or titled in the name of the IRA.

Who owned the LLC?

Not the IRA.

Mr Ball’s back was to the wall. What argument did he have?

Answer: Mr Ball argued that the LLC was an “agent” of his IRA.

The Tax Court did not see an “agency” relationship. The reason: if the principal did not know there was an agent, then there was no agency.

Mr Ball took monies out of an IRA and put it somewhere that was not an IRA. Once that happened, there was no restriction on what he could do with the money. Granted, he put the profits back into the LLC wanna-be-IRA, but he was not required to. The technical term for this is “taxable income.”

And – in the spirit of bayoneting the dead – the Court also upheld a substantial underpayment penalty.

Worst. Case. Scenario.

Is there something Mr Ball could have done?

Yes: Find a trustee that would allow nontraditional assets in the IRA. Transfer the retirement funds from Chase to the new trustee. Request the new trustee to open an LLC. Present the real estate loans to the new trustee as investment options for the LLC and with a recommendation to invest. The new trustee – presumably more comfortable with nontraditional investments – would accept the recommendation and make the loans.

Note however that everything I described would take place within the protective wrapper of the IRA-trust.

Why do I disapprove of these arrangements?

Because – in my experience – almost no one gets it right. The only reason we do not have more horror stories like this is because the IRS has not had the resources to chase down these deals. Perhaps some day they will, and the results will probably not be pretty. Then again, chasing down IRA monies in a backdrop of social security bankruptcy might draw the disapproval of Congress.

Our case this time was Ball v Commissioner, TC Memo 2020-152.


Friday, October 26, 2018

Rolling Over An Inherited IRA


I am not a fan of the 60-day IRA rollover.

I admit that my response is colored by being the tax guy cleaning-up when something goes awry. Unless the administrator just refuses a trustee-to-trustee rollover, I am hard pressed to come up with a persuasive reason why someone should receive a check during a rollover.

Let’s go over a case. I want you to guess whether the rollover did or did not work.

Taxpayer’s mom died in 2008.

Mom had two IRAs. She left them to her daughter, who received two checks: one for $2,828 and a second for $35,358.

The daughter rolled over $35,358 and kept the smaller check.

On her tax return, she reported gross IRA distributions of $38,194 (there is a small difference; I do not know why) and taxable distributions of $2,828.

She did not have an early distribution penalty, as that penalty does not apply to inherited accounts.

The IRS flagged her, saying that the full $38,194 was taxable.

What do you think?

Let’s go over it.

There is no question she was well within the 60-day period.

The money went into an IRA account. This is not a case where monies erroneously went into something other than an IRA.

This was the daughter’s only rollover, so we are not triggering the rule where one can only roll IRA monies in this manner once every twelve months.

The Court decided that the daughter was taxable on the full amount.

Why?

She ran face-first into a sub-rule: one cannot rollover an inherited account, with the exception of a surviving spouse.


The daughter argued that she intended to roll and also substantially complied with the rollover rules.

Here is the Tax Court:
The Code’s lines are arbitrary. Congress has concluded that some lines of this kind are appropriate. The judiciary is not authorized to redraw the boundaries.”
This is a polite way of saying that tax rules sometimes make no sense. They just are. The Tax Court, not being a court of equity, cannot decide a case just because a result might be viewed as unfair.

The Court did not address the point, but there is one more issue at play here.

There are penalties for overfunding an IRA.

Say that you can put away $6,500. You instead put away $10,000. You have overfunded by $3,500.

So what?

You have to get the excess money out of there, that’s what.

Normally I recommend that the $3,500 be moved as a contribution to the following year, nixing the penalty issue.

Let’s say that you do not do that. In fact, you do not even know to do that.

For whatever reason, the IRS examines your return five years later. Say they catch the issue. You now owe a 6% penalty on the overfunding.

That’s not bad, you think. You will pay $210 and move on.

Nope.

It is 6% a year.

And you still have to get the $3,500 out.

Except it is now not $3,500. It is $3,500 plus any earnings thereon for five years.

Say that amount is $5,500, including earnings.

You take out $5,500.

You have five years of 6% penalties. You also have tax on $2,000 (that is, $5,500 minus $3,500).

If you are under 59 ½ you probably have an early-distribution penalty on the $2,000.

Plus penalties and interest on top of that.

I like to think that the Tax Court cut the taxpayer a break by not spotlighting the overfunding penalty issue.

Our case this time was Beech v Commissioner.