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Sunday, November 10, 2019

Repaying The Health Care Subsidy


Twice in a couple of weeks I have heard:
“They should check on the Exchange.”
The Exchange refers to the health insurance marketplace.

In both cases we were discussing someone who is between jobs.         

The idea, of course, is to get the subsidy … as someone is unemployed and can use it.

There might also be a tax trap here.

When you apply for Obamacare, you provide an estimate of your income for the coverage year. The answer is intuitive if you are applying for 2020 (as we are not in 2020 yet), but it could also happen if you go in during the coverage year. Say you are laid-off in July. You know your income through July, and you are guessing what it might be for the rest of the year.

So what?

There is a big what.

Receive a subsidy and you have to pay it back – every penny of it – if your income exceeds 400% of the poverty line for your state.

Accountants refer to this as a “cliff.” Get to that last dollar of income and your marginal tax rate goes stratospheric.

Four times the poverty rate for a single person in Kentucky is approximately $50 grand.  Have your income come in at $50 grand and a dollar and you have to repay the entire subsidy.

It can hurt.

How much latitude does a tax preparer have?

Not much. I suppose if we are close we might talk about making a deductible IRA contribution, or selling stock at a loss, or ….

There may be more latitude if one is self-employed. Perhaps one could double-down on the depreciation, or recount the inventory, or ….

Massoud and Ziba Fanaieyan got themselves into this predicament.

The Fanaieyans lived in California. He was retired and owned several rental properties. She worked as a hairstylist.

They received over $15,000 in subsidies for their 2015 tax year.

Four times the California poverty line was $97,000.

They reported adjusted gross income of $100,767.

And there was (what I consider) a fatal preparation mistake. They failed to include Form 8962, which is the tax form that reconciles the subsidy received to the subsidy to which one was actually entitled based on income reported on the tax return.

The IRS sent a letter asking for the Form 8962.

The Fanaieyans realized their mistake.

Folks, for the most part tax planning is not a retroactive exercise. Their hands were tied.

Except ….

Mr. Fanaieyan remembered that book he was writing. All right, it was his sister’s book, but he was involved too. He had paid some expenses in 2012 and 2013. Oh, and he had advanced his sister $1,500 in 2015.

He had given up the dream of publishing in 2015. Surely, he could now write-off those expenses. No point carrying them any longer. The dream was gone.

They amended their 2015 tax return for a book publishing loss.

The IRS looked at them like they had three eyes each.

To Court they went.

There were technical issues that we will not dive into. For example, as a cash-basis taxpayer, didn’t they have to deduct those expenses back in 2012 and 2013? And was it really a business, or did they have a (dreaded) hobby loss? Was it even a loss, or were they making a gift to his sister?

The Court bounced the deduction. They had several grounds to do so, and so they did.

The Fanaieyans had income over four times the poverty level.

They had to repay the advance subsidies.

I cannot help but wonder how this would have turned out if they had claimed the same loss on their originally-filed return AND included a properly-completed Form 8962.  

Failing to include the 8962 meant that someone was going to look at the file.

Amending the return also meant that someone was going to look at the file.

Too many looks.


Friday, December 26, 2014

What ObamaCare Tax Forms Should You Expect For Your 2014 Return?




Are you wondering what, if any, new ObamaCare tax forms you will either be receiving in the mail or including with your tax return come April?

This was a topic at a tax seminar I attended very recently. What may surprise you is that the ObamaCare tax forms are still in draft; yes, “draft,” and I am writing this in the middle of December.

Let’s go over the principal tax forms you may see and how they fit into the overall puzzle. The 2015 filing season will be the initial launch, and some rules have been relaxed or deferred until the 2016 filing season. This means you may or may not see or receive certain forms, depending upon the size of your employer and what type of insurance is offered. Let’s agree to speak in general terms and not include every technicality, otherwise we will both be pulling out our hair before this is over.

The key form (I suspect) you will receive is Form 1095-B.


You will be receiving the “B” from the employer’s insurance company. Its purpose is to show that you had health insurance (“minimum essential coverage” or “MEC,” in the lingo), as failure to have health insurance will trigger a penalty. The form has four parts, as follows:

(1) The name and address of the principal insured person (probably you)
(2) The name and address of the employer
(3) The name and address of the insurance company
(4) The name and social security number of every person covered under the policy for the principal insured person. There are boxes for all 12 months, as the ObamaCare penalty is a month-by-month calculation.

What if your employer did not provide health insurance and you purchased coverage on the exchange? Now we are talking Form 1095-A, and the exchange will send it to you. It has three parts:

(1) The name of the principal insured person, as well as information about the marketplace itself and some policy information.
(2) The names and social security numbers of those covered under the policy.
(3) Monthly information, such as the premium amount and the amount of any subsidy (“advance payment”) received.


You will have received this form because you or a family member obtained health insurance through the exchange. You already know that the principal insured person (likely you) has to settle up with the IRS at year-end, comparing his/her household income, any subsidy received and any subsidy actually entitled to. The information on the “A” will – in turn – be reported on that form, which we will discuss in a minute.

We still have one more “1095” to talk about: the 1095-C. Frankly, I find this one to be the most confusing of the three.


The employer issues the “C.” Not all employers, mind you, only the “large employers,” as defined and subject to the $2,000/$3,000 penalty for not offering health insurance or offering health insurance that is not affordable.

You will not receive a “C” in 2015. Rather, you will receive one in 2016 if you were a full-time employee anytime during 2015. It can be included with your 2015 W-2, should your employer choose.

It has three parts:

(1) Employee and employer information, including identification numbers and addresses
(2) Recap of insurance coverage offered the employee, detailed for each month of the year. There are a series of codes to fill-in, depending upon a matrix of minimum essential coverage, minimum value, affordability and availability of family coverage.
(3) The third part applies only if the employer is self-insured.

BTW, you may have read that there is 2015 transition relief for employers having between 50 and 99 employees. That applies to the penalty, not to filing this paperwork. An employer with between 50 and 99 employees still has to file the “C.” You will receive this form in 2016 - if your employer has at least 50 employees.

NOTE: The IRS has said that employers can file this form “voluntarily” in 2015 for the 2014 tax year. Uh, sure.

Let’s recap. You would have received the “A”or “B” from a third party and (unlikely) a “C” from your employer. You now have to prepare your individual tax return. What new forms will you see there?

If you acquired insurance on an exchange, you will receive Form 1095-A. You will in turn use information from the “A” to complete Form 8962. Since you are on an exchange, you have to run the numbers to see if you are entitled to a subsidy. Combine this with the possibility that you received an advance subsidy, and you get the following combinations:

(1) You received a subsidy and it is exactly the subsidy to which you are entitled. I expect to see zero of these in my practice.
(2) You received a subsidy and it is less than you are entitled to. Congratulations, you have won a prize. Your tax preparer will include the difference and your tax refund will be larger than it would otherwise be.
(3) You received a subsidy and it is more than you are entitled to. Sorry, you now have to pay it back. Your refund will be less than it would otherwise be.
(4) You received no subsidy and you are entitled to no subsidy. I expect this to be the default in my tax practice. I suspect that we will not even have to file the form in this case, but I am waiting for clarification.

What if you did not have insurance and you did not go on the exchange? There are two more forms:

(1) If you have an exemption from buying insurance, you will file Form 8965. You have to provide a reason (that is, an “exemption”) for not buying health insurance.
(2) All right, technically the next one is not a form but rather a “worksheet” to Form 8965. The difference is that a worksheet may, but does not have to be, included with your tax return. A “form” must be included.


You are here if you did not go on the exchange and you do not have an exemption. You will owe the ObamaCare penalty, and this is where you calculate it. The penalty will go from here to your Form 1040 as additional taxes you owe.

And there you have it.

By the way, expect your tax preparation fees to go up.