Trump Savings Accounts

 

I was reading someone somewhere complaining about Michael and Susan Dell’s recent donation of $6.25 billion. 

The bitter are always with us, unfortunately. 

But it gives us a chance to talk about the new Trump savings accounts. I see that we even have a new tax form to (possibly) bulk-up our 2025 Form 1040 return.

What are they?

The Trump accounts are a twist on an IRA.

What is the twist?

One does not need earned income to contribute to a Trump account.

Anything else?

Trump accounts cease to be Trump accounts when the beneficiary turns age 18. These things are intentionally designed for infants, children and young adults who (likely) have not started working.

How are infants and children going to know how to open this account?

They do not need to. Their parent (more precisely, the person who can claim them on a tax return) will do so for them.

How will the parent/person do this?

Two ways:

·      There is a new tax form (Form 4547 - get it?)

·      There will be a new tax portal (trumpaccounts.gov) 

 

Will this account be with the government itself?

The Treasury will create the account with a “designated financial agent.” No, I do not know what that means. I do see where one can thereafter move the account - say to Fidelity, Schwab or Vanguard (as examples) - should one wish.

How do you know one can move the account?

Because I was looking at an ad from one of the investment companies.

What about free money?

Children born between January 1, 2025, and December 31, 2028 will be eligible for a $1,000 seed contribution from the Treasury. There are requirements, such as a social security number, of course.

This period (2025 to 2028) BTW is called the “pilot program.”

What if the family makes too much money?

The “too much money” thing does not apply to the $1,000.

What is the July 4, 2026 date I have read about?

None of the government’ $1,000 seeding will occur before July 4, 2026.

What if you were born before 2025?

You still qualify to establish a Trump account, as long as you are under the age of 18 at the end of the year. You won’t get that $1,000, though.

Big deal. Why all this hullabaloo for $1,000?

One can put more than a $1,000 into the account.

The annual limit is $5 grand, and the $1 grand seed money does not count toward the $5 grand.

An employer can also put in $2.5 grand annually, but that $2.5 counts toward the overall $5 grand.

Who can contribute?

Parents of course, but also grandparents, other family members, and friends.

And Michael and Susan Dell.

Who qualifies for the Michael and Susan Dell Donation?

The $250 Dell donation reaches children age 10 and under but not eligible for the $1,000 Treasury seed contribution.

There is also an income test, although the test is by zip code and not household. The test is $150,000 or less of median income. Note that a child may qualify even if living in a wealthy household, if the median (not average) income for the zip code is $150,000 or less. The reverse is also true, of course.

What if I cannot put in $5 grand every year?

Put in what you can. Skip a year. Do not make the perfect the enemy of the possible.

Is there a tax deduction for this?

In general: no. Think of it as a Roth contribution.

I am uncertain about the employer ($2.5 grand) contribution, though. Generally, such expenses are deductible by an employer. I however expect that it will also be taxable to the employee, meaning that someone somewhere is paying tax.

Is there another way to get money into the account?

Yes. There is the usual stuff, such as rolling an account from one investment company to another.

The one that intrigues me is a contribution from a 501(c)(3) tax exempt. There is no explicit limit on these contributions, other than the overall (c)(3) requirement to benefit broad categories of beneficiaries and not just the select fortunates.

This, BTW, was the Dell contribution we referred to above: a $6.25 billion donation to contribute $250 each to 25 million children age 10 and under.

What if my parent/person fails to open an account?

Supposedly, the Treasury will open one if the child otherwise qualifies.

You think so?

Consider me cynical at the moment.

How is this thing taxed?

It is not: think IRA.

When can the child get to the money?

Figure that the child cannot until he/she turns age 18. If he/she can, something terrible has happened.

What about after age 17?

Then the Trump account gets wonky.

Supposedly this thing becomes a “regular” IRA account.

OK, but it would be a “regular” IRA account with nondeductible contributions in it. In tax lingo, we call this a “nondeductible” IRA, which has greatly lost favor since people have had access to Roth IRAs. Distributions from a Roth are (generally) tax-free. Distributions from a nondeductible are partially tax-free. There is even a tax form (Form 8606) for nondeductibles to track the numbers between taxable and nontaxable.

Inside wonk: you would not believe how difficult it can be to get (some) tax preparation software to run an IRA distribution through Form 8606 to calculate the taxable portion. I have seen more than one staff accountant give up in frustration.

I suppose Congress may further clarify/change the rules for this age-18 flip. I would like to see the flip go to full-Roth and not to this nondeductible-IRA yahtzee, but we will see.

A positive, though: since it flips to a “regular” IRA, you can make annual IRA contributions to it, if you wish. You will need earned income, of course.

Are there penalties for distributions?

You are not supposed to access IRA monies before age 59 ½. If you do, the distributions (adjusting for that wonky nondeductible IRA arithmetic) will be taxable.

In addition to income tax and unless for several permitted purposes (first house, higher education, adoption expenses and so on), there will also be a 10% penalty.

What does CTG think?

You can tell Trump accounts took water during passage of the One Big Beautiful Bill. There is stuff to both like and dislike.

Me? In general, I like.

Let’s say that you can put away $1,000 per year for 18 years. Add the government’s $1,000 seed. Assume market rate of returns, low investment fees and the money remaining untouched (remember: it is not taxed while within the IRA) for 40 to 50 years.

What an incredible gift and legacy to a grandchild.

Donating Cryptocurrency

 

I was reading something recently, and it reminded me how muddled our tax Code is.

Let’s talk about cryptocurrency. I know that there is bad odor to this topic after Sam Bankman-Fried and FTX, but cryptocurrencies and their exchanges are likely a permanent fixture in the financial landscape.

I admit that I think of cryptos – at least the main ones such as Bitcoin, Ethereum or Binance Coin – as akin to publicly traded stock. You go to www.finance.yahoo.com , enter the ticker symbol and see Bitcoin’s trading price. If you want to buy Bitcoin, you will need around $23 grand as I write this.

Sounds a lot like buying stock to me.   

The IRS reinforced that perspective in 2014 when it explained that virtual currency is to be treated as property for federal income tax purposes. The key here is that crypto is NOT considered a currency. If you buy something at Lululemon, you do not have gain or loss from the transaction. Both parties are transacting in American dollars, and there is no gain or loss from exchanging the same currency.

COMMENT: Mind you, this is different from a business transaction involving different currencies. Say that my business buys from a Norwegian supplier, and the terms require payment in krone within 20 days. Next say that the dollar appreciates against the krone (meaning that it takes fewer dollars to purchase the same amount of krone). I bought something costing XX dollars. Had I paid for it then and there, the conversation is done. But I did not. I am paying 20 days later, and I pay XX minus Y dollars. That “Y” is a currency gain, and it is taxable.

So, what happens if crypto is considered property rather than currency?

It would be like selling Proctor and Gamble stock (or a piece of P&G stock) when I pay my Norwegian supplier. I would have gain or loss. The tax Code is not concerned with the use of cash from the sale.

Let’s substitute Bitcoin for P&G. You have a Bitcoin-denominated wallet. On your way to work you pick-up and pay for dry cleaning, a cup of coffee and donuts for the office. What have you done? You just racked up more taxable trades before 9 a.m. than most people will all day, that is what you have done.

Got it. We can analogize using crypto to trading stock.

Let’s set up a tax trap involving crypto.

I donate Bitcoin.

The tax Code requires a qualified appraisal when donating property worth over $5,000.

I go to www.marketwatch.com.

I enter BTC-USD.

I see that it closed at $22,987 on January 27, 2023. I print out the screen shot and attach it to my tax return as substantiation for my donation.

Where is the trap?

The IRS has previously said crypto is property, not cash.

A donation of property worth over $5 grand generally requires an appraisal. Not all property, though. Publicly-traded securities do not require an appraisal.

So is Bitcoin a publicly-traded security?

Let’s see. It trades. There is an organized market. We can look up daily prices and volumes.

Sounds publicly-traded.

Let’s look at Section 165(g)(2), however:

    (2)  Security defined.

For purposes of this subsection, the term "security" means-

(A)  a share of stock in a corporation;

(B)  a right to subscribe for, or to receive, a share of stock in a corporation; or

(C)  a bond, debenture, note, or certificate, or other evidence of indebtedness, issued by a corporation or by a government or political subdivision thereof, with interest coupons or in registered form.

The IRS Office of Chief Counsel looked at this and concluded that it could not see crypto fitting the above categories.

Crypto could therefore not be considered a security.

As property not a security, any donation over $5 grand would require a qualified appraisal.

There was no qualified appraisal in our example. All I did was take a screen shot and include it with the return.

That means no charitable deduction.

I have not done a historical dive on Section 165(g)(2), but I know top-of-mind that it has been in the Code since at least 1986.

Do you know what did not exist in 1986?

The obvious.

Time to update the law, me thinks.

This time we were discussing CCA 202302012.